In 1998, shortly after I moved to Seattle I ran into guitarist Jeremy Kidder, who invited me to join a group with Sue Orfield on Sax and Larry Dennis on drums. We would be all-instrumental rock/jazz. At that time there were several groups in Seattle playing all instrumentals...Zony Mash, Living Daylights, Skerik, Rockin' Teenage Combo, Be-Bop and Destruction. There were a few clubs, no longer around today that favored these bands...The OK Hotel, The 700 Club, The Sit and Spin. Sue moved back to Wisconsin and tours the world with the Tiptons Saxophone Quartet.